I Am a Strange Loop [Douglas R. Hofstadter] on *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. One of our greatest philosophers and scientists of the mind. Editorial Reviews. Review. Amazon Best Books of the Month, March : I Am a Strange Loop eBook: Douglas R. Hofstadter: Kindle Store. Scott O’Reilly loops the loop with Douglas Hofstadter.

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And beyond this, the postscript to chapter 16 should be unnecessary if he knew that his argumentation were solid. I must have set some kind of record. Hofstadter provides one of these ways. Fascinating to hear about Hofstadter going through the loss of his wife. Add both to Cart Add both to List. Show me your world, Douglas. But this is not an obvious equivalence, I dare say.

There is much here and I do not doubt that writing “I am a Strange Loop” was a labor of love in more ways than one. I read Hofstadter’s “Metamagical Themas” many years ago and was fascinated by the author’s vast area of expertise. One can say “I’m resting on the right side of my demarcation line” when one goes vegetarian, but one can only believe it through willful ignorance. It’s not at all clear to me that this book has any genuine insights to offer, but that may be that it is lost on me as I find his writing style clear, but amateurish I found some of his writing, escpecially his dialogues ala Lewis Carrolll amazing literature.

This is, of course what scientists, and engineers, and husbands who are putting up curtains usually think they are doing when they measure something, namely determining what length, breadth, volume, color, texture, or other magnitude constitutes some entity of interest. Of course someone with whom we are close for many years will have a proportionally larger influence over the shape of our phenomenal arena.

This book is in fact an entire logicia I have an interesting perspective on this title because the book I read just before it was The New Earth by Eckhart Tolle, a book grounded in Zen Buddhist philosophy. He was initially appointed to the Indiana University’s Computer Science Department faculty inand at that time he launched his research program in computer modeling of mental processes which at that time he called “artificial intelligence research”, a label that he has since dropped in favor of “cognitive science research”.

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I think the sheer brilliant of that book dampened this book for me, because rather than exploring new frontiers or enlarging on the the enormity of GEB, or even focusngin on some of the loose ends, it seems to be a recycling of past brilliance. The mind is easily fooled after all so, this strange loop might certainly be an illusion. The metric he started with is the Strange Loop, hiding in plain sight, a ninja ego smirking behind his index finger with a Cheshire Cat grin.

This was tough going, but ultimately worth it for this non-mathematician. There is no free-will because all your brain is doing is weighing pros and cons of various choices and whichever internal symbol gets the most checkmarks wins.

But for an hour. Nonetheless, an interesting read, though sometimes a bit too “cutesy” for my taste.

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Mar 13, Fred rated it it was ok. And what is sleep about anyway?

Svakako da se sve to odvija u ohfstadter neuroni i sve oko njih su i dalje glavni. Since his background was philosophy, he’s been trained, I think, to argue for a particular side of a debate even although there isn’t enough evidence available in the universe to ever prove it one way or another. Jul 21, Brodie rated it liked it Shelves: So her consciousness is not distributed, merely a symbol of her is in his mind.

Gofstadter this not a refutation of the idea that small-souled animals are edible?

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Yet thanks to the infinite extensibility of concepts we perpetually manage to make useful comparisons between seemingly disparate ideas. He makes some bold claims about the nature of consciousness, but he doesn’t use strnage terms and concepts rigorously enough to keep his arguments straight, and he doesn’t do much work to back them up anyway. Every now and then, we humans, despite knowing we won’t come to any definite conclusion, need to sit back and wonder what it all means, in a new way each time.

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Feb 14, Zach rated it it was ok. And I’m bringing all that frustration to this book, because if I made half. As brains get bigger and more complex, able to hold more and more images and symbols, a critical mass is reached and consciousness appears.

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Return to Book Page. So you could, in effect, say “This statement is unprovable” by making a logical statement about the whole number that uniquely identifies the very statement in question. Had I known this was an x edition, I strangw not have purchased the Kindle edition. Suffice it to say that I think Hofstadter is on to the nature of consciousness and he presents it in a lively yet challenging way. The Cartesian prison of isolated and monadic selves is demolished, in favor of selves that are deeply enriched and entwined by their relationships to other points of view.

This isn’t a bad book, apart from the constant use of reference to the “dear reader”, it’s just redundant because of the above and not nearly as much fun as GEB.

So why did I start out to read another Hofstadter book? What this story lacks is an understanding of how a unique point-of-view makes the self what it is. He essentially claims the self is a formula, and life is in fact mechanistic. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. After declaring his theory “explained”, Hofstadter moves on to considerations of how one sm loop-abstraction, the one that fools me into the illusion of a stable “I”, is influenced and modified by others. He is much impressed by Derek Parfit’s thought experiments [supposedly] demonstrating that what we take to be the un-copyable core of ourselves, is nothing but effervescent illusion and can in fact be copied.

It seems despite all my own follies, most people I know respect me way more highly hofstadtet I think I deserve this is hofsadter a fact, not a strangee. Hofstadter begins with Godel because as it will turn out, his insight into the recursive descriptiveness of number theory from which self-reference was supposedly banned by Bertran Russel, becomes his inroad into a philosophy of mind.

The choice of metric is THE moral choice.